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Length of Angle or Bar Bent to a Ring

What length of angle iron or bar do I cut to roll this ring inside or outside a tank?

Cut length of an angle, flat or other section rolled into a ring, from the diameter at the back of the section and the distance to its neutral axis, or from a handbook-style length constant, for sections placed inside or outside a tank or stack.

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How this tool works

Inputs, units and where to find them

InputUnitTypical source
Correction fromchoiceUse the section’s neutral-axis distance, or a length constant for the section.
Section ischoiceWhether the section sits inside or outside the shell.
Shell diameter at the back of the sectionmmDiameter of the shell surface that the back of the section bears on.
Back of section to neutral axismmDistance from the back of the section to its neutral axis (centroid) in the plane of bending, from section data.
Length constantmmLength constant to subtract (inside) or add (outside), equal to 2π × the neutral-axis distance.

What each input means

Open an input to see what it is, its units, the worked example and the common mistakes, with a small diagram.

What this means: Correction from
Illustration: Correction fromThe options for Correction from, with the one currently selected highlighted.Neutral-axis distanceLength constantExample: Neutral-axis distanceCorrection from
What it is
Whether the length correction comes from the distance between the back of the section and its neutral axis, or from a ready-made length constant.
Units and format
Choose one of 2 options from the list: Neutral-axis distance; Length constant.
Example
The form opens with “Neutral-axis distance” selected as a worked example. Choose the option that matches your case.
What this means: Section is
Illustration: Section isThe options for Section is, with the one currently selected highlighted.Inside the shell (diameter is the inside of…Outside the shell (diameter is the outside…Example: Inside the shell (diamete…Section is
What it is
Whether the bent section sits inside the shell with its back on the inside surface, or outside with its back on the outside surface; it decides whether the correction is subtracted or added.
Units and format
Choose one of 2 options from the list: Inside the shell (diameter is the inside of the shell); Outside the shell (diameter is the outside of the shell).
Example
The form opens with “Inside the shell (diameter is the inside of the shell)” selected as a worked example. Choose the option that matches your case.
What this means: Shell diameter at the back of the section
Illustration: Shell diameter at the back of the sectionA circle with a line straight through its centre from edge to edge, marking the diameter Shell diameter at the back of the section.Dmeasured acrossthe centreExample: 6096 mmShell diameter at the back of the section
What it is
The diameter of the shell surface that the back of the rolled section bears against: the inside diameter for a ring inside, the outside diameter for a ring outside.
Units and format
Enter a number in mm: millimetres. The form accepts 0.000001 mm to 100000 mm. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 6096 mm as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
Effect on the result
The cut length rises by π for each millimetre of diameter.
What this means: Back of section to neutral axis
Illustration: Back of section to neutral axisA bar with a dimension line and arrows from one end to the other, marking the length Back of section to neutral axis.xExample: 22.5 mmBack of section to neutral axis
What it is
The distance from the back face of the section to its neutral axis (centroid), measured in the plane of bending, from section property tables.
Units and format
Enter a number in mm: millimetres. The form accepts 0 mm to 1000 mm. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 22.5 mm as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
Effect on the result
The cut length changes by 2π times this distance.
Get it right
Measure from the face that bears on the shell, not from the outer edge of the other leg.
What this means: Length constant
Illustration: Length constantA bar with a dimension line and arrows from one end to the other, marking the length Length constant.kExample: 109.7 mmLength constant
What it is
A length constant for the section equal to 2π times its neutral-axis distance, subtracted for a ring inside the shell and added for one outside.
Units and format
Enter a number in mm: millimetres. The form accepts 0 mm to 10000 mm. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 109.7 mm as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.

Method and formulas

  1. Neutral-axis diameter = D − 2x inside the shell, D + 2x outside.
  2. Length = π × neutral-axis diameter = π D ∓ 2π x.
  3. Handbook example: 20 ft inside diameter with a constant of 4.319 in gives 754 − 4.319 = 749.68 in.
  4. Example: 6096 mm inside a shell with 22.5 mm to the neutral axis needs 19,010 mm.

Limitations

  • Neutral axis assumed at the centroid; heavy rolling can shift it slightly.
  • Add allowance for the ends to be trimmed after rolling.
  • Example values are illustrations. Replace them with values for your actual task.

Typical uses

  • Cut stiffener rings for tanks, ducts and stacks
  • Estimate material for rolled flanges
  • Check rolled ring length allowances

Who it is for

  • Fabrication supervisors
  • Manufacturing engineers
  • Estimators

What you get

  • Cut length
  • Neutral-axis diameter
  • Correction to the circumference

Interpreting the result

  • Roll a trial ring for new sections and adjust the constant from the measured result.

References

  • Machinery’s Handbook, 29th edition (Industrial Press, 2012), printed pp. 2593. Topic reference; no source tables or recommended settings are reproduced.

Learn the Concepts Behind This Tool

These BIZOMAT Library readings explain the method this tool uses, with worked examples.

  • Method explained here · BIZOMAT original book

    Rings, stiffeners and flanges

    In Plate Work by the Numbers

    What it covers: Roll a 75 × 75 × 6 angle into a ring on its centroid, not its back: length, toe and heel strains, toe-out against toe-in, splices, bolt circles on the outlet flange, and a ring cut 132 mm short.

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