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Gear Hobbing Plan (Time, Hob Life and Cost per Gear)

How long does each gear take to hob, what share of hob sharpening and hob cost falls on each gear, and what does the batch cost?

Plan of a gear hobbing job: hob and work speeds, approach and total hob travel, cutting and floor-to-floor time per gear with stacked blanks (as the hobbing time tool), machine-time cost with set-up spread over the batch, sharpening cost per gear from the gears cut between sharpenings, hob cost per gear over the hob’s sharpening life, the cost per gear and for the batch, and the hob speed against the machine maximum.

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How this tool works

Inputs, units and where to find them

InputUnitTypical source
Gear teethNumber of teeth on the gear.
Hob startsNumber of starts on the hob.
Hob diametermmOutside diameter of the hob.
Cutting speedm/minCutting speed for the hob and material.
Axial feed per work revolutionmm/revAxial feed of the hob per revolution of the work.
Face widthmmFace width of the gear.
Tooth depthmmWhole depth of the tooth.
Helix angle°Helix angle of the gear.
OverrunmmExtra hob travel past the face.
Blanks per stackBlanks cut together in one stack.
Load and unload time per stackminTime to load and unload a stack.
Machine and tooling
Largest hob spindle speedrpmHighest hob spindle speed of the machine.
Machine and labour rate$/hMachine plus operator rate.
Set-up timeminSet-up time for the batch.
Gears in the batchGears in the batch.
Gears cut between sharpeningsGears the hob cuts before it needs sharpening (your value).
Cost of one sharpening$Cost of sharpening the hob once.
Sharpenings in the hob’s lifeNumber of sharpenings the hob can take before it is scrapped.
Hob price$Price of a new hob.

What each input means

Open an input to see what it is, its units, the worked example and the common mistakes, with a small diagram.

What this means: Gear teeth
Illustration: Gear teethA gear with its teeth around the rim; Gear teeth is the number of teeth.zteeth countedaround the rimExample: 40Gear teeth
What it is
The number of teeth on the gear being hobbed. With the hob starts it sets how fast the work turns relative to the hob.
Units and format
Enter a plain number with no unit. The form accepts 5 to 1000. Use a whole number. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 40 as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
Effect on the result
More teeth slow the work speed, so cutting time rises in proportion.
What this means: Hob starts
Illustration: Hob startsA row of identical items being counted; Hob starts is how many there are.iExample: 1Hob starts
What it is
The number of thread starts on the hob, marked on the hob or its certificate. Each hob revolution advances the work by this many teeth.
Units and format
Enter a plain number with no unit. The form accepts 1 to 6. Use a whole number. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 1 as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
Effect on the result
More starts speed up the work in proportion and cut the cutting time.
What this means: Hob diameter
Illustration: Hob diameterA circle with a line straight through its centre from edge to edge, marking the diameter Hob diameter.D_hmeasured acrossthe centreExample: 80 mmHob diameter
What it is
The outside diameter of the hob, which sets the hob spindle speed for the cutting speed and the approach length.
Units and format
Enter a number in mm: millimetres. The form accepts 0.000001 mm to 500 mm. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 80 mm as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
Get it right
Measure the current diameter: it reduces each time the hob is sharpened.
What this means: Cutting speed
Illustration: Cutting speedA marker moving along a track; Cutting speed is the distance it covers per unit of time.V_cdistance ÷ timeExample: 60 m/minCutting speed
What it is
The surface speed at the hob teeth, from the hob maker’s data for your hob material and gear material.
Units and format
Enter a number in m/min: metres per minute. The form accepts 0.000001 m/min to 600 m/min. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 60 m/min as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
Effect on the result
Hob and work speed rise in proportion, so cutting time is inversely proportional to it.
What this means: Axial feed per work revolution
Illustration: Axial feed per work revolutionA cutting tool moving along a turning workpiece; Axial feed per work revolution is how far the tool advances for each revolution or tooth.fadvance perrev or toothExample: 1.5 mm/revAxial feed per work revolution
What it is
How far the hob moves along the gear axis for each revolution of the gear blank. It sets the cutting time and the feed marks on the flanks.
Units and format
Enter a number in mm/rev: millimetres per revolution. The form accepts 0.000001 mm/rev to 20 mm/rev. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 1.5 mm/rev as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
Effect on the result
Cutting time is inversely proportional to the feed.
Get it right
Per revolution of the work, not of the hob.
What this means: Face width
Illustration: Face widthA bar with a dimension line and arrows from one end to the other, marking the length Face width.bExample: 30 mmFace width
What it is
The axial width of the gear teeth to be cut.
Units and format
Enter a number in mm: millimetres. The form accepts 0.000001 mm to 2000 mm. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 30 mm as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
What this means: Tooth depth
Illustration: Tooth depthA surface with a step cut into it and a dimension from the original surface down to the bottom of the step, marking Tooth depth.horiginal surfaceExample: 5.625 mmTooth depth
What it is
The whole depth of the gear tooth, from tip to root, as cut by the hob. It sets the approach length while the hob enters to full depth.
Units and format
Enter a number in mm: millimetres. The form accepts 0.000001 mm to 100 mm. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 5.625 mm as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
Get it right
Use whole depth, not the addendum or working depth.
What this means: Helix angle
Illustration: Helix angleTwo lines meeting at a point with an arc between them, marking the angle Helix angle.βExample: 0°Helix angle
What it is
The helix angle of the gear teeth. A helical gear needs a longer hob travel across the face than a spur gear.
Units and format
Enter a number in °: degrees of angle. The form accepts 0° to 45°. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 0° as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
Get it right
Enter 0 for a spur gear.
What this means: Overrun
Illustration: OverrunA bar with a dimension line and arrows from one end to the other, marking the length Overrun.LExample: 3 mmOverrun
What it is
The extra hob travel beyond the gear face at the end of the cut, so the last teeth are fully formed.
Units and format
Enter a number in mm: millimetres. The form accepts 0 mm to 100 mm. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 3 mm as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
What this means: Blanks per stack
Illustration: Blanks per stackA row of identical items being counted; Blanks per stack is how many there are.nExample: 1Blanks per stack
What it is
The number of gear blanks clamped together and hobbed in one pass. Time per gear is the stack time divided by this number.
Units and format
Enter a plain number with no unit. The form accepts 1 to 50. Use a whole number. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 1 as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
Get it right
The hob travel is worked out from one face width and is not lengthened for the stack height, so check stacked cutting times.
What this means: Load and unload time per stack
Illustration: Load and unload time per stackA timeline from a start mark to an end mark; Load and unload time per stack is the time between them.startendtExample: 1 minLoad and unload time per stack
What it is
The time to load a stack of blanks onto the machine, start it, and unload the finished gears.
Units and format
Enter a number in min: minutes. The form accepts 0 min to 600 min. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 1 min as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
Get it right
Per stack, not per gear; the tool divides it among the gears in the stack.

Machine and tooling

What this means: Largest hob spindle speed
Illustration: Largest hob spindle speedA turning disc with a marker; Largest hob spindle speed is how many full turns it makes in each minute.turns of the shaftper minuten maxExample: 1000 rpmLargest hob spindle speed
What it is
The highest hob spindle speed the machine allows. The plan is flagged if the cutting speed needs more.
Units and format
Enter a number in rpm: revolutions per minute. The form accepts 0.000001 rpm to 10000 rpm. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 1000 rpm as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
What this means: Machine and labour rate
Illustration: Machine and labour rateA price tag on one unit of measure; Machine and labour rate is the cost for each unit (per hour, per kilogram and so on).$cost foreach unitExample: $90/hMachine and labour rate
What it is
The cost of one hour of the hobbing machine with its operator, from your costing or finance team.
Units and format
Enter a number in $/h: money per hour. The form accepts $0/h to $10000/h. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with $90/h as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
Get it right
It is applied to floor-to-floor time and set-up time.
What this means: Set-up time
Illustration: Set-up timeA timeline from a start mark to an end mark; Set-up time is the time between them.startendtExample: 60 minSet-up time
What it is
The time to set up the machine, hob and fixture for this batch before the first good gear.
Units and format
Enter a number in min: minutes. The form accepts 0 min to 10000 min. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 60 min as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
Get it right
Enter minutes for the whole batch; the tool shares it across the gears.
What this means: Gears in the batch
Illustration: Gears in the batchA row of identical items being counted; Gears in the batch is how many there are.nExample: 500Gears in the batch
What it is
The number of gears made from one set-up. Set-up cost is shared across them.
Units and format
Enter a plain number with no unit. The form accepts 1 to 10000000. Use a whole number. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 500 as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
Effect on the result
A larger batch lowers the set-up share of the cost per gear.
What this means: Gears cut between sharpenings
Illustration: Gears cut between sharpeningsA row of identical items being counted; Gears cut between sharpenings is how many there are.nExample: 200Gears cut between sharpenings
What it is
How many gears the hob cuts before it is blunt and must be resharpened, from your wear records or trial gears.
Units and format
Enter a plain number with no unit. The form accepts 1 to 1000000. Use a whole number. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 200 as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
Effect on the result
Sharpening and hob cost per gear are inversely proportional to it.
What this means: Cost of one sharpening
Illustration: Cost of one sharpeningA stack of coins and a note representing the money amount Cost of one sharpening.$Example: $80Cost of one sharpening
What it is
What one resharpening of the hob costs, from your tool room or sharpening supplier, including any freight.
Units and format
Enter a number in $: an amount of money; use one currency for every money input. The form accepts $0 to $100000. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with $80 as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
What this means: Sharpenings in the hob’s life
Illustration: Sharpenings in the hob’s lifeA row of identical items being counted; Sharpenings in the hob’s life is how many there are.nExample: 10Sharpenings in the hob’s life
What it is
How many times the hob can be resharpened before it is too small and is scrapped, from the hob maker or your records.
Units and format
Enter a plain number with no unit. The form accepts 0 to 200. Use a whole number. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with 10 as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.
Get it right
Count resharpenings only; the tool adds the first use as new.
What this means: Hob price
Illustration: Hob priceA stack of coins and a note representing the money amount Hob price.$Example: $1200Hob price
What it is
The purchase price of a new hob, spread over all the gears it cuts in its life.
Units and format
Enter a number in $: an amount of money; use one currency for every money input. The form accepts $0 to $1000000. Required: the tool does not calculate until every input is valid.
Example
The form opens with $1200 as a worked example. It is an illustration, not a recommended value: replace it with your own figure.

Method and formulas

  1. Hob speed n = 1000 V_c ÷ (π D_h); work speed = n × starts ÷ z; approach = √[h (D_h − h)]; travel = b ÷ cos β + approach + overrun (as the hobbing time tool).
  2. Cutting time per gear = travel ÷ (f × work speed) ÷ stack; floor-to-floor adds the load time ÷ stack.
  3. Cost per gear = rate × (floor-to-floor + set-up ÷ batch) + sharpening ÷ gears per sharpening + hob price ÷ [gears per sharpening × (sharpenings + 1)].
  4. Example: each gear takes 6.9709 min floor to floor and costs about 11.582; the batch costs 5,790.9.

Limitations

  • Single pass at constant feed; roughing and finishing passes need their own lines.
  • Hob life must match the speeds, feeds and material.
  • Example values are illustrations. Replace them with values for your actual task.

Typical uses

  • Quote a hobbed gear
  • Compare stacking blanks for a batch
  • See what share of cost the hob takes

Who it is for

  • Gear engineers
  • Estimators
  • Process planners

What you get

  • Hob and work speeds, travel and times
  • Machine, sharpening and hob cost per gear
  • Batch cost

Interpreting the result

  • Stacking blanks spreads the approach and loading over several gears; it pays most on narrow gears.

References

  • Machinery’s Handbook, 29th edition (Industrial Press, 2012), printed pp. 3347–3349. Topic reference; no source tables or recommended settings are reproduced.

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